You Have the Skills. It's Time to Build the Business That Pays You for Them.

Design Business Pro is a graphic design and web design business coaching program for freelance designers who are done undercharging, done overworking, and ready to finally build a profitable business with confidence.

You didn't get into design to struggle. But somewhere between your first client and right now, the business side of freelancing got complicated — and nobody taught you how to handle it.

That's exactly what we fix here.

You're Good at Design. So Why Does the Business Feel So Hard?

You have real skills. Clients have told you your work is excellent. You get referrals. You stay late to get projects right.

And yet.

You're still quoting rates you're embarrassed by. You're still saying yes to clients who drain you. You're still trading hours for dollars and wondering why the math never quite works out.

You've Googled "how to charge more for web design." You've watched the YouTube videos. You've read the blog posts.

But nothing has actually changed.

Here's what nobody tells you: the gap between where you are and where you want to be isn't a design skills problem. It's a confidence problem. A clarity problem. A positioning problem.

And those are exactly the problems a good graphic design and web design business coach actually solves.

The Designers Who Thrive Aren't More Talented Than You.

They Think Differently About Their Business.

The designers charging $5,000 for a website — while you charge $800 for the same scope — aren't better designers.

They've just figured out three things you haven't been taught yet.

They know exactly who they serve best and how to position themselves as the obvious choice for that client.

They know how to price based on the value they create — not the hours they log.

And they know how to build a client relationship that generates recurring revenue long after the first project ends.

None of this is complicated. None of it requires a marketing degree or a massive social media following.

It requires the right framework, a coach who has actually done it, and the confidence to start acting like the CEO of your own business.

That's what Design Business Pro is built to give you.

I'm Mat Casner:

Your Web Design Business Coach

I'm the Person I Wish I'd Had Knew When I Was Starting Out.

I didn't start as a coach. I started as a graphic designer, then grew into a web designer.

For years I freelanced on the side while working full-time jobs — including a stretch at a large advertising agency in Kansas City where I was managing web and marketing projects for Fortune 500 clients.

Here's the thing that changed everything for me.

The agency was billing my work at $150 an hour. I was charging my own freelance clients $20 to $25 an hour for the same quality of work.

The same skills. The same output. A fraction of the price.

When that finally landed — when I really internalized what that gap meant — I stopped seeing myself as a commodity and started seeing myself as an asset. I raised my rates. I changed how I talked about my work. I changed who I worked with.

And my business changed completely.

I left my corporate cubicle more than 15 years ago and have been running my own full-time design and web agency — Redlogic Communications — ever since. I still take client work today. I'm not a guru who stopped designing a decade ago and now sells courses about it. I'm a practitioner who coaches because I know what works in the real world right now.

For the past decade I've worked with freelance designers all over the world — graphic designers, web designers, brand designers, and other creative professionals — helping them build businesses that are profitable, sustainable, and genuinely enjoyable to run.

My mission is simple: I want to help you own your unique talents, charge what you're worth, and build a business that actually supports your life.

Think like a creative. Act like a CEO.

That's what we do here.

"Before the 8 Weeks Were Over, I Had Made More Money Than I Had in the Entire Previous Year."

I want to tell you about Isaac.

Isaac is a writer and marketing consultant. Smart, talented, genuinely good at what he does.

In the summer of 2022, he sat down with his wife and told her he was done. Done trying to grow his business. Done with the struggle. Done with the dream. He was ready to quit.

That same week, a friend referred him to one of my summits. He almost didn't come.

But something made him give it one last shot.

Here's what Isaac told me afterward:

"There's a lot of gurus out there who are gonna tell you that with their training or course they're gonna turn your business around. But as soon as I started receiving communication from Mat, there was just something different. I could tell he was there to serve."

Isaac came to the summit. Then he enrolled in my 8-week program.

Before the eight weeks were over — before the course even finished — Isaac had made more money in his business than he had in the entire previous year.

The entire previous year.

Not because I handed him a magic formula. Not because I promised him overnight results.

Because we worked through three very specific things together: his mindset about himself and about money, how to package his services around what he actually loves to do, and how to price those packages so he was finally making a real profit.

Three things. And his business transformed.

I'm sharing Isaac's story because I know some of you reading this right now are exactly where he was in the summer of 2022.

Talented. Working hard. Doing everything you know how to do.

But something isn't clicking.

It can work. I've seen it too many times to think otherwise.

What Design Business Pro Actually Teaches You

Most design education teaches you how to design. Design Business Pro teaches you how to run a design business.

There's a difference — and it's the difference between a talented designer who struggles and a confident creative professional who thrives.

Here's what we work on together:

Clarity — Know Exactly What You Offer and Who You Serve Best

Most designers try to serve everyone and end up attracting the wrong clients at the wrong rates. We use a structured framework to help you identify the clients you serve best, the services you love delivering, and the positioning that makes you the obvious choice — not just another option.

Confidence — Charge What You're Worth Without Apologizing for It

Undercharging isn't a pricing problem. It's a confidence and mindset problem. We work through the beliefs that are keeping your rates low and replace them with a value-based pricing approach that reflects what your work actually delivers to a client's business.

Recurring Revenue — Build a Business That Pays You Beyond the First Project

One-time projects keep you on a feast-or-famine treadmill. We help you build recurring revenue through maintenance plans, retainers, and strategic upsells that turn a single client relationship into years of consistent income.

Sales Without the Sleaze — Close Clients Confidently and Authentically

You don't need to be pushy or manipulative to close a sale. You need to know how to have a real conversation about value. We teach you a sales approach that feels natural, builds trust, and converts the right clients — without ever feeling like you're performing.

From "I Was Seriously Considering Quitting" to a Full-Time Design Business She Loves

Sarah was a college instructor teaching graphic design when COVID hit and changed everything.

Fewer teaching jobs. Less respect for her expertise. Almost no control over her time. She felt like "just the help" rather than a valued professional.

When the pandemic forced a reset, a friend asked her to design a book cover — and something clicked. She already had the skills. She built a website and launched a freelance design business.

Then reality hit.

How much do I charge? Hourly or packages? What do I do when a client keeps changing their mind? What if they ask for a refund on work they already approved? How do I break out of feast or famine?

The questions piled up fast. The stress was real. She was seriously considering quitting and going back to a traditional job.

That's when she found Design Business Pro.

"Right away I was like — this is the resource I need. A friendly, encouraging person with a lot of real-world experience. I needed mentorship and practical advice."

In the time she spent working through the program, Sarah describes getting the equivalent of a mini business degree — comparable in practical value to the graduate degree she already held.

She learned how to price her work, package her services, set client expectations, and build a referral-based business.

The results? Her hourly earnings nearly tripled. She stopped wanting to quit. She built a steady flow of referral work. And she's now able to split her week between her design business and her passion for fine art — the exact life she set out to create.

"I had all the skills. It was inside me all along. Mat's encouragement and advice helped bring it out and made it possible for me to build a business that actually supports my life."

She's been running her business full-time for over two years now. She's not looking back.

What You Get Inside Design Business Pro

Design Business Pro combines structured training, live coaching, and a community of working designers — so you get the knowledge, the accountability, and the support to actually implement what you learn.

The Design Business Academy

An 8-week course built specifically for freelance graphic designers and web designers. We cover positioning, pricing, packaging, client management, sales, and recurring revenue — everything design school skipped. You work through it at your pace with lifetime access.

Monthly Group Coaching Calls

Live calls with Mat where you can bring your real business questions, deals you're trying to close, clients you're navigating, and pricing decisions you're wrestling with. Real answers for real situations.

Private Community

A private community of designers who are building serious businesses. Ask questions, share wins, get feedback on proposals, and stay accountable to your goals. No trolls. No fluff. Just working designers helping each other grow.

Guest Expert Trainings

Regular sessions with outside experts covering topics like SEO, content marketing, legal basics for freelancers, and more — so you're getting a well-rounded business education, not just a design education.

Backstage Pass — A Look Inside Mat's Agency

See how a real working design and web agency operates. Real processes, real client communication, real pricing decisions. Not theory. Not what worked in 2010. What works right now.

Access to the Full Training Vault

Every past training, every resource, every template — available the moment you join.

Is Design Business Pro Right for You?

This is for you if...

You're a freelance graphic designer, web designer, or creative professional who already has marketable skills but struggles to price them confidently.

You've been freelancing for at least a year and you're ready to stop treating your business like a side hustle and start running it like a CEO.

You're tired of undercharging, attracting the wrong clients, and trading hours for dollars with nothing left over.

You want a coach who has actually built and run a real design business — not just someone who teaches business theory.

You're willing to do the work. You're not looking for a magic shortcut. You're looking for the right framework, the right support, and the clarity to finally move forward.

This is NOT for you if...

You're looking for a get-rich-quick formula or overnight results.

You're brand new to design with no client experience yet — this program is built for designers who already have skills and need to monetize them better.

You're not willing to examine how you think about your own value. Mindset work is part of this program. If that's not something you're open to, this isn't the right fit.

You want someone to do the work for you. This is a coaching and education program — the results come from your implementation.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is Design Business Pro open right now?

Not at the moment — but doors will open again soon. Join the waitlist below and you'll be the first to know when enrollment opens. Waitlist members also get access to exclusive early-bird pricing.

I'm a graphic designer, not a web designer. Is this still for me?

Absolutely. While many of our strongest students are web designers, the frameworks we teach apply to any creative service business — brand designers, illustrators, print designers, and other creative professionals have all built better businesses through this program. If you sell a creative service, this was built for you.

How much does it cost?

Pricing is shared when enrollment opens. Waitlist members are always offered the best available rate. What we can tell you is that the program is priced to be a genuine investment — not a $27 PDF — because real transformation requires real commitment from both of us.

How much time does it take each week?

The 8-week Academy is designed to be completed in 2 to 3 hours per week. Coaching calls and community engagement are additional but optional. Most students find that the time they invest quickly pays for itself through better pricing and more efficient client management.

I've tried other courses and they didn't work. Why is this different?

Most design business courses are built by people who stopped doing the work years ago. Mat still runs an active design and web agency. The frameworks inside Design Business Pro are tested in the real market — not just in a classroom. And unlike self-paced courses you abandon by week two, the community and coaching structure keeps you accountable.

What if I join and it's not for me?

We offer a 30-day money-back guarantee. Use the training, show up for the calls, engage with the community, and implement what you learn. If you genuinely don't believe it's worth your investment at the end of 30 days, forward your receipt with the subject line "Not For Me" and we'll give you a full refund — no questions asked.

What if I join I'm not sure I'm ready. What's a good first step?and it's not for me?

Download the free 6-Figure D.E.S.I.G.N. Business Blueprint. It's a no-cost resource that walks you through the foundation of building a profitable design business. If it resonates, you'll know you're in the right place.

You Already Have What It Takes.
Let's Build the Business Around It.

Isaac was ready to quit. Sarah was ready to go back to a traditional job.

Neither of them had a skills problem.

They had a business problem — and they needed someone who had already solved it to show them how.

If you're reading this and something in you is saying yes, this is exactly where I am — trust that.

You don't need another year of undercharging. You don't need to figure this out alone. You need a proven framework, a coach who has been in the trenches, and a community of designers who are serious about building something real.

That's Design Business Pro.

Doors aren't open right now — but they will be. Join the waitlist below and be first in line when enrollment opens. Waitlist members get notified first and always receive the best available pricing.

Think like a creative. Act like a CEO.

— Mat Casner, Design Business Pro

The Freelance CEO Podcast with Mat Casner
The Freelance CEO Podcast with Mat Casner
Ep. 2. 3 Keys to Perfectly Pricing Your Services as a Freelancer or Contractor
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So, I wanna talk to you today about pricing. There are a lot of questions that I get as a Freelance coach, but pricing is probably one of the biggest questions that I get. People don’t know what to charge, and there’s a lot of insecurity when it comes to pricing because we’re putting a price tag on, on ourselves. We’re we’re, we’re putting a value onto ourselves.

And so, you know, that can be scary and you just don’t know where to start. If you’re a young freelancer and you’re just getting started, then that can be intimidating. Or, you know, maybe you’ve been, you’ve been playing around and you’ve tried some and you haven’t one that works, or you’re afraid that maybe haven’t got the right strategy.

I get it. As a young freelancer, I remember, you know, pricing my services and I’m gonna tell you some real practical advice. It’s gonna come from my experience, but also from some things that I’ve picked up along the way from other people that have really helped me understand what pricing is all about and how we can get comfortable with our pricing and earn a good living. I think at the end of the day, we’re all interested in being successful. I know that I would not be freelancing right now if I was not able to provide for my family if we were not able to have things like insurance and be able to take vacations. You know, when I left my corporate nine to five, you know, I had the security of a paycheck, I had the security of benefits, and going into Freelance, not quite so much. And that’s some things that we all have to figure out, and it took me a while to get where I’m at today, and I’m a him here to offer you some advice to maybe help shorten that rotor a little bit for you.

Okay? So what I’m gonna do today is I’m gonna share with you three things that I think are key to knowing how to not only know the perfect price for your services, but actually know how and when to increase your prices. I, I think it’s also important for us to talk a little bit about what is really what we’re selling and what are people really paying for when they hire us.

What, let’s dive into this. So what I wanna do first is I want to share with you just a very simple way of coming to your perfect price. And this is something everybody can do, doesn’t require, you know, an advanced degree or anything like that. It’s some simple math. So here’s what I want you to do, okay? I want you to get a spreadsheet out, or a piece of paper or whatever it is that will let you, you know, write some, some numbers down. Take some things down. And what you’re going do is you’re going list, and on this list are going to outline every you have. Now you’re going to think about things like, you know, your rent or mortgage, insurance, food, entertainment, utilities, water, electricity, gas, internet, whatever that might entail, car payments, car insurance, health insurance, whatever is that’s coming out of your paycheck or an invoice or a a, a bill that you’re paying every month. You need to be crystal clear on what that, what that is, because that the bottom line of that is what your expenses are.

However, if you are, you’re not currently employed, or if you’re free freelancing full-time, then you need to at the end of that tack on whatever paycheck you want to pay yourself. And so to figure that out, what you need to do is you need to figure out, you know, what you want your income to be. So you know your list of expenses, you know what you have to cover in terms of cost. Then you need to go over and determine, you know, how much of money am I gonna have to make to cover those expenses? And then do I want anything on top of that? Do I wanna make any additional that I can put the savings that I can invest for retirement? Anything like that.

So you need to get clear on that as well. And I want you to do this for one month. Figure out what your expenses are for one month. Then what I, what I want you to do is I want you to, I want you to add 30% because 30% is going to be what you’re going to pay to the government when they ask you to pay your taxes.

Okay? So we wanna make sure that that’s covered too. We wanna make sure that that’s part of our plan. All right? So we’ve got our list of expenses, plus 30% plus whatever on top that you want to make as your profit, your income that you can then reinvest, you can save. So that number, when you’ve added all those things together, that number is, is what you are going to have expense wise for the month. So then what you need to do is you need to divide that number by the number of hours that you want to work per month. You want to work 20 hours a week, then you divide that number by 80. So 20 hours per week times four weeks in a month, right? Is 80. So you’re gonna divide that to find out what your hourly rate’s going to be. Now, if your freelancing, and I can, I can tell you that I was, I was like this way, there were times when I worked way more than 40 hours a week and that wasn’t my desire. My desire is always to, to work less.

But as I was getting started, as I was learning, as I was growing, as I was gaining new clients and I was doing work, I would go over that 40 hours. But you have to understand that not all those hours are billable. There’s a lot of time that we’re gonna spend doing work for ourselves, our own promotion, our own education, you know, setting up our own internal business. That’s, those are tasks that we don’t get paid for. So what I’m talking about now, when you divide that number by the number of hours that you’re gonna work, those are the number of billable hours. So if you want to work 20 hours a week, that would be billable time, okay?

That’s time, that’s billable to the client. Maybe it’s 25, maybe it’s 30. But I do wanna caution you don’t book all your time because you wanna leave some time in your weekly schedule to take care of administrative tasks to actually take care of your business. If, if you don’t leave any time in your business to actually grow your business, you’re not going to have a business for very long.

And trust me, you don’t wanna be figuring out your budget and paying your bills at midnight or on the weekends or time when you’d like to be with your family. That’s just not, that’s not a good place to be. There you go. Make a list of all of your expenses, your monthly expenses, add 30%, which is gonna go to the government tax time, okay? And then add another 10, 20, 30%, whatever you want to make in terms of a profit money that you can invest, that you can put in money for savings for rainy day that you can start to invest in for your retirement vacations, you know, all that sort of thing. Alright? That gets you to a number. When you find out what that hourly rate is, that’s your number. Now, if that number is too high, then you need to go back to your list of expenses and start trimming things. All right? Start taking things out of your budget that you don’t necessarily need. And I can tell you that as a freelancer just getting started, I did that, I had to whittle down the, my monthly expenses and things that I really didn’t have to have so that my, my requirements in terms of how much I had to sell would be less. Okay? That make sense? Okay. That’s the first, first thing you do. That’s how you get to really your perfect number. Now, you know, based on kind of your, your situation, cost of living and things like that, it might be go up or down, but generally that’s gonna give you a ballpark place to start. Okay? So then what happens? So then you start selling your services and you start, you start with that rate, okay? And, and that’s a, a fair rate because that is covering you and your expenses.

Now, let me say this, that is simply a starting point, okay? It’s a place that pays you and allows you to meet your monthly obligations and allows you to get started. Okay? But listen to me when I say this, that where your real value is and what your ultimate price can be as a freelancer, ultimately isn’t in what you can do.

It’s not really tied into your services, per se. What you are worth as a freelancer is directly tied to the problems that you solve. Okay? When I just recently had a, a new roof put on my house, we’d had some damage to it. And so I went out and I, I looked for a rep, reputable roofer. And when I was talking to this roofer,

I didn’t ask him how well he could pound a nail. I didn’t ask him what his ladder climbing skills were. I simply asked him, are you able to put a new roof on my house because my house needs a new roof and what’s it gonna cost me? Okay? So when I got this bid, he shows me, you know, what it’s gonna take to get this new roof on my house. And he doesn’t, he doesn’t show me, you know, his, his hammer, his hammer skills or his ladder climbing skills, he shows me a solution to my problem. And at the end of the day, that’s what I was paying money for. I was paying money for someone to come in and solve my problem, alright? If that guy would’ve told me that, Hey, I can also work on your car. I would look at him and I go, well, which are you? Are you a a roofer or are you a mechanic? Because honestly, I I, I don’t doubt you, but I think it’s highly unlikely that you’re probably gonna do both very well.

Okay? I was able to look up this guy’s website and see that he had done lots of other riffs in the past, and I had perfect confidence because he had track record. And that is something my friend that you want, start right now. Build your track record, get some clients working for you at your minimum billable rate. Get as many of them as you can and start solving problems.

The more clients that you can get in and the more clients that you can solve problems for, okay? You are creating a track record for yourself. And that track record is what is going to get you more work. That track record is going to speak to the problems that you can solve and how well you can do them, okay? People are really not gonna care what you know, that you, that you have some killer Photoshop skills or that your, your, your skills with WordPress are crazy good, okay? If they can look at your portfolio and look at what other clients have said about what you’re doing, trust me, that is gonna be worth more to them and gonna be gonna be better for you in terms of getting paid, because your client is going to see that if I hire this person, they are gonna help me get results. I e solve my problem. Okay? So I want you to reframe as you’re getting started, as a freelancer and your pricing, your services, start with your minimum, you know, price and start serving clients. Start serving problems because here is number three.

This is how you are able to never guess about raising your rates. As you start to fill up your, your Freelance pipeline, as you start to serve clients and you start to solve problems and you start to get results for these clients, then you’re consistently going to be building business. Hopefully some of those clients that you had early on are gonna come back and buy from you again, which is gonna be this cyclical, this type of recurring revenue that’s going to kinda snowball in your business. And it starts out slow. But over time, as you build confidence, as you are able to solve more problems faster, your productivity is going to go up, you’re going find more clients along the way, they’re going to pay you, you’re gonna solve their problems, they’re gonna have confidence, and you’re going to have this combination of finding new customers and solving their problems and taking care of existing clients and helping them solve more problems. And see, the wonderful thing about, about this is that you start to, you start to compound your growth potential, okay? Now, when that happens and you start to fill up your calendar, as your, as your schedule starts to fill out out past week one into week two, possibly into week three, you are at a a point where you should start to raise your rates. Okay? So what I recommend is, as you start to fill your development calendar, that means there’s demand for your services. That means that there is, people are paying you what you’re asking for, the services that you’re providing and the problems that you’re solving. Okay? So at that point, there is an opportunity for you as you bring on new clients, as you add them to your calendar, to slowly, incrementally raise your rates. Don’t go from zero to 50, go from zero to five, five to 10, 10 to 20, and in smaller increments, because when people buy from you and you tell them that you’re busy and you’ll need to schedule that workout, subconsciously, what that tells the buyer is that, okay, this person’s busy, they’re working for other people, which means they must be good and worth the weight. So subliminally, you’re telling your potential clients that, yes, I am worth it and I’m willing to do the work for you, but you need to go at, you know, get in line, okay? I’m serving other people first. And that’s a terrific place to be in my friends, because cuz that creates an incredible value proposition for you, okay? That puts you in a great position to be able to control how you chart. So case in point, over the last 12 months,

I have raised my rates four times, okay? As my schedule continues to fill, I’m finding new clients. As I’m bringing these new clients on, I’m increasing my rate with them. And guess what? People wanna work with me because they know what I can do and they know the problems I can solve. And to date, money has not been a big issue.

People will pay to have their problem solved. I needed a new roof on my house, it costs several thousand dollars. They were done in half a day. It didn’t take very long. But guess what? I paid that check and I didn’t think twice because I needed to have a good riff on my head or over my head, and I wanted to make sure that it was done right.

So what you can do is great, but the problems that you can solve for your customers is where the real value in your price lies. So let’s just recap. If you don’t know what your perfect price is, figure out your expenses. Add for the 30% for taxes, add for your profitability, for savings, retirement, vacations, whatnot. That’s your total divide that by the number of hours that you wanna work per month to get your hourly rate for that month.

That’s where you start. Then you start serving clients, start solving problems. Then eventually you’re gonna build a track record and you are going to create this desire for people to work with you and your value is going to go up because you are staying busy. All right, my friends, I wanna wish you the very best. I want you to go out There, there and be who you were created to Be.